However much you think you know the work of Quincy Jones, he still has the power to surprise.

You know, of course, that he produced Michael Jackson's Off The Wall and Thriller albums, revolutionising pop music in one amazing purple patch. But the sheer scale of his achievements is astounding.

Towards the end of our interview, the talk turns to football. Warming to the subject, Jones starts to sing The Self Preservation Society. "I wrote that, you know," he adds ...